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		<title>Waterboarding, Consent, and Rape</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Rittgers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p>Former Vice President Dick Cheney appeared at AEI today to promote his book and again made the claim that waterboarding detainees is not torture because we use this technique on our own troops. As he put it: &#8220;Another key point that needs to be made was that the techniques that we used were all previously [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/waterboarding-consent-and-rape/">Waterboarding, Consent, and Rape</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p><p>Former Vice President Dick Cheney appeared at AEI today to promote his book and again made the claim that waterboarding detainees <a href="http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/09/cheney_we_waterboarded_us_soldiers_so_it_s_not_torture">is not torture</a> because we use this technique on our own troops. As he put it:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Another key point that needs to be made was that the techniques that we used were all previously used on Americans,&#8221; Cheney went on. &#8220;All of them were used in training for a lot of our own specialists in the military. So there wasn&#8217;t any technique that we used on any al Qaeda individual that hadn&#8217;t been used on our own troops first, just to give you some idea whether or not we were ‘torturing&#8217; the people we captured.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This isn’t a new argument. <a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23220">Plenty</a> <a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/200904210003">of</a> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/30/AR2009043003108.html">other</a> <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/222661/waterboarding-and-torture/andrew-c-mccarthy?page=2">folks</a> have argued that, because we subject members of the military to waterboarding in Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) School (the military’s POW prep course), waterboarding detainees is not mistreatment.</p>
<p>It’s also a nonsensical argument.</p>
<p>The difference is consent. What one person consents to in one set of conditions does not make the same treatment, without consent and in other conditions, somehow less invasive or less illegal under domestic and international law. I was not waterboarded when I attended SERE school, but I endured treatment I wouldn’t willingly accept in other circumstances. If you want to waterboard me, you’d best be ready for a fight.</p>
<p><span id="more-37301"></span>Export Cheney’s logic to sex. Consenting adults have sex and it’s legal, enjoyable, and essential to the survival of the species. If you accept the premise that, because you can have sex with someone with consent, it is always legal and moral to have sex with others, you’ve just declared that rape is not a crime.</p>
<p>Setting aside the issue of consent, waterboarding was <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/181094/against-waterboarding/jim-manzi">clearly recognized</a> as a criminal act by the laws of war and domestic statute well before we interrogated KSM. We prosecuted our own soldiers for using controlled drowning (the “water cure” and waterboarding) in the <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6647.html">Spanish-American War</a> and in <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100402005.html">Vietnam</a>. We prosecuted <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.html">Japanese soldiers</a> for using waterboarding after World War II. We prosecuted a <a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2007/11/07/21200/commentary-is-waterboarding-torture.html">sheriff in Texas</a> for waterboarding confessions out of prisoners.</p>
<p>I wrote a piece for the <em>Los Angeles Times</em> a few months back spelling out how Cheney isn’t arguing with Obama here. He’s <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/31/opinion/la-oe-rittgers-waterboarding-20110531">reliving a battle he lost</a> within the Bush administration:</p>
<blockquote><p>The legal framework underlying waterboarding collapsed during President George W. Bush&#8217;s tenure. The White House Office of Legal Counsel in 2004 withdrew the memoranda that authorized waterboarding. The <a href="http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/gazette/2005/12/detainee-treatment-act-of-2005-white.php">Detainee Treatment Act of 2005</a>, sponsored by former POW and torture victim Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), barred &#8220;cruel, inhuman, and degrading&#8221; treatment of any detainee in military custody. There may be an argument that waterboarding isn&#8217;t torture, but there&#8217;s no argument that it&#8217;s not cruel, inhuman and degrading&#8230;</p>
<p>The Supreme Court put the nail in the coffin with its <em>Hamdan vs. Rumsfeld</em> decision in 2006. The real import of the ruling was not that Congress had to authorize military commissions (it quickly did) but that the Geneva Conventions apply to the armed conflict with Al Qaeda. The application of the laws of war, which allow broad power to kill your enemy but provide no authority to mistreat him, brought down the legal house of cards that authorized coercive interrogation. Bush issued an <a href="http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2007/pdf/07-3656.pdf">executive order</a> the next year that banned the bulk of enhanced interrogation techniques. Obama followed suit with his own <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/EnsuringLawfulInterrogations/">order</a> applying stricter military standards to the intelligence community.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/31/opinion/la-oe-rittgers-waterboarding-20110531">Read the whole thing</a>. Read some more on waterboarding and detainees <a href="../../../../../fixing-detention-in-afghanistan/">here</a>, <a href="../../../../../waterboarding-again/">here</a>, and <a href="../../../../../forced-nudity-and-detainee-abuse/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Waterboarding, Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Rittgers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p>I have an article in today’s Los Angeles Times pointing out that waterboarding is dead as a tool for U.S. interrogators. So get over it. I also make the point that it died under Bush’s watch, so the next time Dick Cheney trots out a proposal to bring back waterboarding, he’s quarreling mostly with his [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/waterboarding-again/">Waterboarding, Again</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p><p>I have an <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rittgers-waterboarding-20110531,0,7042313.story" target="_blank">article</a> in today’s <em>Los Angeles Times</em> pointing out that waterboarding is dead as a tool for U.S. interrogators. So get over it. I also make the point that it died under Bush’s watch, so the next time Dick Cheney trots out a proposal to <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/05/08/cheney_bring_back_waterboarding_wrong_to_call_it_torture.html" target="_blank">bring back waterboarding</a>, he’s quarreling mostly with his old boss and not the current commander-in-chief. Over at the <em>Washington Post</em>, Allen McDuffee <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/think-tanked/post/catos-rittgers-time-to-get-over-waterboarding/2011/05/31/AGoOWZFH_blog.html?wprss=think-tanked" target="_blank">thinks this is unfair</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It may well be the case that Cheney has unfinished business with Bush over dropping the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques, but it is at least a selective reading for Rittgers to suggest that Cheney’s words are not directed at Obama with the hope that they carry political consequences for the administration. It is unlikely that even Cheney himself would make such a suggestion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course Cheney’s comments are directed at Obama, as a rearguard action intended to make it politically impossible to prosecute those that made waterboarding and other coercive interrogation techniques our policy. Mission accomplished.</p>
<p>Waterboarding died in 2004 when the Office of Legal Counsel withdrew the memoranda supporting it, with other nails in the coffin provided by the Detainee Treatment Act and the <em>Hamdan</em> decision. Bush didn’t make these changes by himself. The OLC withdrawal was Jack Goldsmith’s doing, and a signing statement on the DTA showed Bush’s reluctance to accept limits on his power. But accept them he did. On the same day that Bush issued an <a href="http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2007/pdf/07-3656.pdf" target="_blank">executive order</a> finessing the Geneva Conventions Common Article 3 as applied to the CIA, his OLC issued <a href="http://www.justice.gov/olc/docs/memo-warcrimesact.pdf" target="_blank">legal advice</a> on what enhanced interrogation techniques are still on the table. It’s no human rights wishlist (sleep deprivation, reduced calorie diet, and four slapping/holding techniques), but waterboarding is nowhere to be found.</p>
<p>Yes, Obama restricted the intelligence community to the Army Field Manual. Waterboarding was long gone by that point. It has been resurrected as a talking point in defiance of legal reality, good policy, and core principles, but will not and should not be American policy. Again, get over it.</p>
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		<title>Neocons Finish Out of the Money in Kentucky Race</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 00:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Boaz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By David Boaz</p>Rand Paul&#8217;s landslide victory in the Kentucky Republican primary is being hailed as a big win for the Tea Party movement, a slap in the face to the Republican establishment, and maybe even as a harbinger of the rise of libertarian Republicanism. (Only 19 percent of Kentucky Republicans say they&#8217;re libertarians, but that&#8217;s got to be more [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/neocons-finish-out-of-the-money-in-kentucky-race/">Neocons Finish Out of the Money in Kentucky Race</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By David Boaz</p><p>Rand Paul&#8217;s landslide victory in the Kentucky Republican primary is being hailed as a big win for the Tea Party movement, a slap in the face to the Republican establishment, and maybe even as a harbinger of the rise of libertarian Republicanism. (Only <a href="http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/05/paul-still-up-big.html">19 percent</a> of Kentucky Republicans say they&#8217;re libertarians, but that&#8217;s got to be more than before the Rand Paul campaign.) It&#8217;s also a big loss for Washington neoconservatives, who warned in dire terms about the horrors of a Paul victory.</p>
<p>Back in March, Jonathan Martin <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34582.html#ixzz0oJRVC25l">reported in Politico</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Recognizing the threat, a well-connected former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney convened a conference call last week between Grayson and a group of leading national security conservatives to sound the alarm about Paul.</p>
<p>“On foreign policy, [global war on terror], Gitmo, Afghanistan, Rand Paul is NOT one of us,” Cesar Conda wrote in an e-mail to figures such as Liz Cheney, William Kristol, Robert Kagan, Dan Senor and Marc Thiessen.</p>
<p>With an attached memo on Paul’s noninterventionist positions, Conda concluded: “It is our hope that you can help us get the word out about Rand Paul’s troubling and dangerous views on foreign policy.” </p>
<p>In an interview, Conda noted that Paul once advocated for closing down the detention center at Guantanamo Bay and sending some suspected terrorists to the front lines in Afghanistan. </p>
<p>“This guy could become our Republican senator from Kentucky?” he exclaimed. “It’s very alarming.”</p></blockquote>
<p>A week later, Dick Cheney himself issued <a href="http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/24/dick-cheney-endorses-trey-grayson-over-rand-paul-in-kentucky-gop/">his first endorsement</a> of the campaign season to Secretary of State Trey Grayson, hardly the most promising Republican candidate of 2010. Obviously, Cheney was urging Kentuckians <em>not</em> to vote for Rand Paul.</p>
<p>David Frum kept up the pressure <a href="http://www.frumforum.com/will-rand-paul-wreck-gop-kentucky-hopes">on his website</a> and in national magazines, where <a href="http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/202903/angry-gop-voters-flirt-with-danger-in-kentucky">he tossed around</a> words like &#8220;extremist,&#8221; &#8220;conspiracy monger,&#8221; and &#8220;his father&#8217;s more notorious positions.&#8221; (That column also included the most amazing confession of political error I&#8217;ve ever seen: &#8220;many of my friends fell (briefly) victim to Lyndon Larouche’s mad ideology, which exploited those good themes to bad ends.&#8221; Say what? I never knew anyone who fell for Lyndon Larouche; I never even heard of any actual person who followed him; but David Frum had &#8220;many friends&#8221; who became followers of the nuttiest guy ever to run for president? That&#8217;s some band of friends.)</p>
<p>The big-government Republican establishment rallied to Grayson&#8217;s side against the previously unknown opthalmologist from Bowling Green. Late in the campaign, Grayson ran ads featuring endorsements from Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Cheney, Rick Santorum, and Rudy Giuliani. That&#8217;s more raw tonnage of Republican heavyweights than you&#8217;d see on a national convention stage.</p>
<p>And after all that Kentucky Republicans gave a 25-point victory to a first-time candidate who opposed bailouts, deficits, Obamacare, and the war in Iraq. That&#8217;s a sharp poke in the eye to the neocons who tried so hard to block him. They don&#8217;t want a prominent Republican who opposes this war and the next one, who will appeal to American weariness with war and big government. They don&#8217;t want other elected Republicans &#8212; many of whom, <a href="http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=37948">according to some members of Congress</a>, now regret the Iraq war &#8212; to start publicly backing away from perpetual interventionism.</p>
<p>There were plenty of winners tonight. But the big losers were the neoconservatives, who failed to persuade the Republican voters of Kentucky that wars and bailouts are essential for national progress.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Moody</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Chris Moody</p>John McCain channels Dick Cheney: On March 4, McCain introduced a bill that  &#8220;would require that anyone anywhere in the world, including American citizens, suspected of involvement in terrorism &#8212; including &#8216;material support&#8217; (otherwise undefined) &#8212; can be imprisoned by the military on the authority of the president as commander in chief.&#8221; President Obama declared [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/wednesday-links-21/">Wednesday Links</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Chris Moody</p><ul>
<li><a href="http://azdailysun.com/news/opinion/columnists/article_50d355a7-14c6-5749-8e30-ff2e3eebec3f.html">John McCain channels Dick Cheney</a>: On March 4, McCain introduced a bill that  &#8220;would require that anyone anywhere in the world, including American citizens, suspected of involvement in terrorism &#8212; including &#8216;material support&#8217; (otherwise undefined) &#8212; can be imprisoned by the military on the authority of the president as commander in chief.&#8221;</li>
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<li>President Obama declared passage of a major student-aid reform law yesterday. Will it help? Cato education expert Neal McCluskey <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OWQ0OTIzZTg5MjY5MWI4ZjEwYzcyMmQ2NDAzZmZjYTk=">calls it a mixed bag. </a></li>
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<li>Thought experiment: Let&#8217;s say for a moment that Congress could actually repeal the health care overhaul. <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/30/re-reforming-health-care/">What should they put in its place</a>?</li>
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<li>Should Congress pursue <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/31/a-bone-to-pick-with-bartlett-on-federal-spending/">a constitutional amendment</a> that would limit federal spending to one-fifth of the economy?</li>
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<li>Podcast: &#8220;<a href="http://www.cato.org/dailypodcast/podcast-archive.php?podcast_id=1123">Obama&#8217;s Intelligence Gathering Needs Oversight</a>&#8221; featuring Julian Sanchez.</li>
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		<title>Attending to Business</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger Pilon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Roger Pilon</p>In today’s Politico Arena, the editors ask: Is Obama &#8220;dithering&#8221; on Afghanistan (Cheney) or fulfilling his &#8220;solemn responsibility&#8221; (Gibbs)? My response: President Obama got some adult criticism this week from Dick Cheney, none too soon.  While the risk to American troops in Afghanistan grows, Obama dithers, unable to decide whether to get in or get out — [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/attending-to-business/">Attending to Business</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Roger Pilon</p><p>In <a href="http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Roger_Pilon_A38BEDC3-5309-4C36-922F-72BC0035345D.html">today’s Politico Arena</a>, the editors ask:</p>
<blockquote><p>Is Obama &#8220;dithering&#8221; on Afghanistan (Cheney) or fulfilling his &#8220;solemn responsibility&#8221; (Gibbs)?</p></blockquote>
<p>My response:</p>
<blockquote><p>President Obama got some adult criticism this week from Dick Cheney, none too soon.  While the risk to American troops in Afghanistan grows, Obama dithers, unable to decide whether to get in or get out — whether to be the one thing the Constitution authorizes him to be, Commander in Chief.  Yet he finds time to fly off to Copenhagen to promote Chicago for the Olympics, to insinuate himself in local political campaigns, to go on &#8220;<a title="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102203801.html?hpid=opinionsbox1" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102203801.html?hpid=opinionsbox1">Fox hunts</a>,&#8221; yesterday excluding Fox News from the White House pool allowed to interview his executive pay czar, and now, we learn, to slash executive salaries at companies not only partially owned but simply regulated by the government.  Are there no limits to the man&#8217;s hubris?</p>
<p>Even the <a title="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102202670.html?hpid=topnews" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102202670.html?hpid=topnews"><em>Washington Post</em></a> this morning, no bastion of free-market fervor, noted that this &#8220;represents a signal moment in the history of the American economic experiment,&#8221; moving us ever closer to the European model.  But it was Arena contributor <a title="http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Allan_Meltzer_B4B0F5DF-B210-4856-B727-CF87B0ED150C.html" href="http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Allan_Meltzer_B4B0F5DF-B210-4856-B727-CF87B0ED150C.html">Allan Meltzer</a> who yesterday hit the nail on the head:  &#8221;All the noise about pay and pay cuts is part of an effort to divert the public&#8217;s attention from the main cause of the mortgage fiasco — the role that Congressman Frank and others had in creating the mortgage crisis by refusing to limit the activities of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac after 2003.&#8221;  That these regulators will be able to calculate the salary that is appropriate to discourage excessive risk-taking is simply comical.</p>
<p>And so we have here a textbook example of modern government:  Obama fails to do or do well what he is authorized to do, yet he strides into matter far beyond his authority — or competence.  He seems not to understand the Constitution he once taught, and more recently promised to uphold.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/attending-to-business/">Attending to Business</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<title>The Zero Percent Doctrine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Preble</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Christopher Preble</p>I was never a fan of Dick Cheney&#8217;s one percent doctrine. According to Ron Suskind, after 9/11 Cheney explained to law enforcement and intelligence officials that they should treat even the one percent chance of a terrorist attack as a mathematical certainty. The particular case was of a Pakistani nuclear scientist helping al-Qaeda to acquire a nuclear bomb, [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-zero-percent-doctrine/">The Zero Percent Doctrine</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Christopher Preble</p><p>I was never a fan of Dick Cheney&#8217;s one percent doctrine. <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1205478,00.html"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1205478,00.html">According to Ron Suskind</a>, after 9/11 Cheney explained to law enforcement and intelligence officials that they should treat even the one percent chance of a terrorist attack as a mathematical certainty. The particular case was of a Pakistani nuclear scientist helping al-Qaeda to acquire a nuclear bomb, but the standard became a shorthand for U.S. counterterror efforts generally. No scale of effort would be too great. Better to chase down 100 leads, 99 of which turn out to be bogus, because finding just that one nugget would have been worth the level of effort.</p>
<p>Now we have evidence that the federal government is chasing down far more than 99 blind alleys for just one lead. From <a title="F.B.I. Agents’ Role Is Transformed by Terror Fight " href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/us/19terror.html?hp">today&#8217;s front-page story in the <em>New York Times</em></a>, Eric Schmitt explains how the FBI has adapted and evolved since 9/11:</p>
<blockquote><p>The bureau now ranks fighting terrorism as its No. 1 priority. It has doubled the number of agents assigned to counterterrorism duties to roughly 5,000 people, and has created new squads across the country that focus more on deterring and disrupting terrorism than on solving crimes.</p>
<p>But the manpower costs of this focus are steep, and the benefits not always clear. <strong>Of the 5,500 leads that the squad has pursued since it was formed five years ago, only </strong><strong>5 percent have been found </strong><strong>credible enough to be sent to permanent F.B.I. squads for longer-term investigations</strong>, said Supervisory Special Agent Kristen von KleinSmid, head of the squad. <strong>Only a handful of those cases have resulted in criminal prosecutions</strong> or other law enforcement action, and <strong>none have foiled a specific terrorist plot</strong>, the authorities acknowledge. (Emphasis mine.)</p></blockquote>
<p>So, just to review:</p>
<ul>
<li>5,500 leads over 5 years</li>
<li>5 percent deemed credible</li>
<li>&#8220;A handful&#8221; technically would mean five or less, but charitably might total a few dozen. Still, that translates to <em>far less than 1 percent</em> of leads investigated resulting in a criminal prosecution.</li>
</ul>
<p>But, and here&#8217;s the kicker,</p>
<ul>
<li>None &#8211; zero, zip, nada &#8211; foiled a specific terrorist plot.</li>
</ul>
<p>On the face of it, this seems like a waste of time and resources that should be spent elsewhere.</p>
<p><span id="more-8638"></span>There are several plausible explanations, however, for why I&#8217;m wrong and why those who believe that we are not dedicating sufficient resources to combating terrorism are right.</p>
<ul>
<li>Perhaps other government agencies have been far more effective at disrupting terror plots. (But when the relative comparison is zero, it isn&#8217;t very hard to clear that bar.)</li>
<li>Perhaps Schmitt got his facts wrong. (Doubtful. He is one of the most experienced and reliable reporters on the beat.)</li>
<li>Perhaps the knowledge that 5,000 people chasing down 5,500 leads deters would-be terrorists from even attempting anything. (Or it could simply be helping <a href="http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&amp;Area=jihad&amp;ID=SP81104#_ednref2">bin Laden&#8217;s plan &#8220;to make America bleed profusely to the point of bankruptcy.&#8221;</a>)</li>
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<p>Two other points bear consideration. First, it is possible that arresting, prosecuting and convicting people of lesser crimes disrupts what might someday become a full-scale terror plot. There is no reason to think that the guy trying to cut down the Brooklyn Bridge with a blowtorch was much smarter than the 15 guys who provided the muscle for the 9/11 attacks. The difference was leadership, which defined a plausible terrorist attack and devised the means to carry it out. That said, there are problems associated with the expansion of federal laws, and the growing power of prosecutors, and I would still much prefer that common criminals be handled in a run-of-the-mill fashion. Local cops, local prosecutors, local jails.</p>
<p>Which leads to the second point. Reflecting the growing federalization of the criminal law, the FBI strayed into a number of areas even before 9/11 that should have been handled by local law enforcement. This <a href="http://fedsoc.server326.com/Publications/practicegroupnewsletters/criminallaw/crimreportfinal.pdf">expansion of the federal criminal law</a> poses a threat to individual liberty. (Thanks to Tim Lynch for pointing to this source.) But counterterrorism is one of the few legitimate functions for a <em>federal</em> law enforcement agency, and if the FBI is devoting more resources to that than to other crimes, that in and of itself wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing.</p>
<p>I remain unconvinced, however, that what we are seeing is a wise expenditure of resources. And while I understand that zero terrorist plots uncovered is not equal to zero <em>threat</em> of a future attack, it is incumbent on the FBI &#8212; and more generally those who think that the problem is too little, as opposed to much, being devoted to counterterrorism &#8211; to prove why they need still more resources.</p>
<p>Until that occurs, I think that UCLA&#8217;s Amy Zegart, who is quoted in the <em>Times</em> story, should get the last word on this point:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just chasing leads burns through resources. &#8230; You’re really going to get bang for the buck when you chase leads based on a deeper assessment of who threatens us, their capabilities and indicators of impending attack. Right now, there’s more chasing than assessing.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-zero-percent-doctrine/">The Zero Percent Doctrine</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Rittgers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p>In case you missed it, President Obama and former Vice President Dick Cheney spoke separately today on terrorism and national security. Like two boxers at a pre-fight press conference, they each touted their strength over their opponent. They espoused deep differences in their views on national counterterrorism strategy. The Thrilla in Manilla it ain&#8217;t. As [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/cheney-vs-obama-tale-of-the-tape/">Cheney vs. Obama: Tale of the Tape</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p><p>In case you missed it, <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/21/obama_guantanamo_speech_transcript_96610.html">President Obama</a> and former Vice President <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/21/cheney_obama_keeping_america_safe_96615.html">Dick Cheney</a> spoke separately today on terrorism and national security. Like two boxers at a pre-fight press conference, they each touted their strength over their opponent. They espoused deep differences in their views on national counterterrorism strategy.</p>
<p>The Thrilla in Manilla it ain&#8217;t. As <a href="http://www.cato.org/people/gene-healy">Gene Healy</a> has <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/GeneHealy/Dick-Cheney-is-becoming-Obamas-enabler-45349127.html">pointed out</a>, they agree on a lot more than they admit to. Harvard Law professor and former Bush Office of Legal Counsel head Jack Goldsmith makes the same point at the <em><a href="http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=1e733cac-c273-48e5-9140-80443ed1f5e2&amp;p=1">New Republic</a></em>. Glenn Greenwald made a <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/19/obama/index.html">similar observation</a>.</p>
<p>However, the areas where they differ are important: torture, closing Guantanamo, criminal prosecution, and messaging. In these key areas, Obama edges out Cheney.</p>
<p><span id="more-7348"></span><strong>Torture</strong></p>
<p>Cheney:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was and remain a strong proponent of our enhanced interrogation program. The interrogations were used on hardened terrorists after other efforts failed. They were legal, essential, justified, successful, and the right thing to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama:</p>
<blockquote><p>I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. What&#8217;s more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. They risk the lives of our troops by making it less likely that others will surrender to them in battle, and more likely that Americans will be mistreated if they are captured.</p></blockquote>
<p>Torture is incompatible with our values and our national security interests. When we break our own rules (read: laws) against torture, we erode everyone&#8217;s faith that America is the good guy in this global fight.</p>
<p>Torture has been embraced by politicians, but the people who are fighting terrorists on the ground want none of it. As former FBI agent Ali Soufan <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/05/13/former-fbi-agent-torture-sucks-dont-do-it/">made clear</a> in Senate hearings last week, it is not an effective interrogation technique. Senior military leaders such as General <span lang="EN">Petraeus</span>, former CENTCOM commanders Joseph Hoar and Anthony Zinni, and former Commandant of the Marine Corps Charles Krulak all <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/05/04/torture-no/">denounce</a> the use of torture.</p>
<p>If we captured Al Qaeda operatives who had tortured one of our soldiers in pursuit of information, we would be prosecuting them. Torture is no different and no more justifiable because we are doing it.</p>
<p><strong>Closing Guantanamo</strong></p>
<p>Cheney:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the President will find, upon reflection, that to bring the worst of the worst terrorists inside the United States would be cause for great danger and regret in the years to come.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama:</p>
<blockquote><p>[I]nstead of serving as a tool to counter-terrorism, Guantanamo became a symbol that helped al Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause. Indeed, the existence of Guantanamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an area where Cheney is disagreeing not just with Obama but with John McCain. We would be having this debate regardless of who won the last Presidential election. Get over it.</p>
<p>The current political climate gives you the impression that we are going to let detainees loose in the Midwest with bus fare and a gift certificate for a free gun at the local sporting goods store. Let&#8217;s be realistic about this.</p>
<p>We held hundreds of thousands of prisoners of war in America during World War II. The detainees we have now are not ten feet tall and bulletproof, and federal supermax prisons hold the same perfect record of keeping prisoners inside their walls as the detainment facility in Guantanamo Bay.</p>
<p><strong>Criminal Prosecution</strong></p>
<p>Obama basically said that we will try those we can, release those who we believe pose no future threat, and detain those that fit in neither of the first two categories. That&#8217;s not a change in policy and that pesky third category isn&#8217;t going away.</p>
<p>Obama and Cheney do have some sharp differences as to the reach of war powers versus criminal prosecution.</p>
<p>Cheney:</p>
<blockquote><p>And when you hear that there are no more, quote, &#8220;enemy combatants,&#8221; as there were back in the days of that scary war on terror, at first that sounds like progress. The only problem is that the phrase is gone, but the same assortment of killers and would-be mass murderers are still there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama:</p>
<blockquote><p>Recently, we prosecuted and received a guilty plea from a detainee &#8211; al-Marri &#8211; in federal court after years of legal confusion. We are preparing to transfer another detainee to the Southern District of New York, where he will face trial on charges related to the 1998 bombings of our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania &#8211; bombings that killed over 200 people.</p></blockquote>
<p>I <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/01/09/the-measure-of-our-own-liberties/">have</a> <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/01/29/al-marri-is-probably-a-terrorist-%E2%80%94-we-should-have-tried-him/">written</a> <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/02/26/trying-al-marri/">extensively</a> <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/03/06/supreme-court-will-not-hear-al-marri-appeal/">on</a> <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/05/01/al-marri-pleads-guilty/">al-Marri</a>, the last person to be detained domestically as an enemy combatant. The FBI did everything right when it investigated and indicted this Al Qaeda sleeper agent masquerading as an exchange student, only to have the Bush administration remove those charges in order to preserve the possibility of detaining domestic criminals under wartime powers. This claim of governmental power is a perversion of executive authority that Obama was right to repudiate.</p>
<p>The man being indicted in New York is <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/us/22gitmo.html?ref=global-home">Ahmed Gailani</a>. If he is convicted for his role in the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, he will join his co-conspirators Wadih El-Hage, Mohammed Odeh, Mohammed al-Owhali, and Khalfan Mohammed in a supermax.</p>
<p>This is also where we hold 1993 World Trade Center bombers Ramzi Yousef, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman (the &#8220;Blind Sheikh&#8221;), Mohammed Salameh, Sayyid Nosair, Mahmud Abouhalima, and Ahmed Ajaj.</p>
<p>Not to mention would-be trans-pacific airline bombers Wali Khan Amin Shah and Abdul Hakim Murad.</p>
<p>Al Qaeda operatives Mohammed Jabarah, Jose Padilla, and Abu Ali will share his mailing address.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget American Taliban Johnny Walker Lindh, Shoe Bomber Richard Reid, Al Qaeda and Hamas financier Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad, Oregon terrorist training camp organizer Ernest James Ujaama, and would-be Millenium Bomber Ahmed Ressam.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of bad guys. It&#8217;s almost like we&#8217;re checking names off a <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/fugitives.htm">list</a> or something.</p>
<p><strong>Messaging</strong></p>
<p>Cheney:</p>
<blockquote><p>Behind the overwrought reaction to enhanced interrogations is a broader misconception about the threats that still face our country. You can sense the problem in the emergence of euphemisms that strive to put an imaginary distance between the American people and the terrorist enemy. Apparently using the term &#8220;war&#8221; where terrorists are concerned is starting to feel a bit dated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama: no quote is necessary here. The differences in narrative between Obama and Cheney are clear and woven into what Obama says.</p>
<p>Terrorism is about messaging. America finds herself in the unenviable position of fighting an international terrorist group, Al Qaeda, that is trying to convince local insurgents to join its cause. Calling this a &#8220;War on Terror&#8221; can create a war on everybody if we use large-scale military solutions for intelligence, law enforcement, and diplomatic problems.</p>
<p>We have to tie every use of force or governmental power to a message: drop leaflets whenever we drop a bomb, hold a press conference whenever we conduct a raid, and publish a court decision whenever we detain someone. Giving the enemy the initiative in messaging gives them the initiative in the big picture.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Once we get past the rhetoric, the differences are few but worth noting. I take Obama in the third round by TKO.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/cheney-vs-obama-tale-of-the-tape/">Cheney vs. Obama: Tale of the Tape</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gene Healy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Gene Healy</p>That&#8217;s the theme of my Washington Examiner column this week: Dick Cheney’s “Shut Up and Listen” tour continued last week on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” There, the former veep reiterated his favorite theme: Obama is putting America at risk by “taking down a lot of those policies we put in place that kept the nation [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/dick-cheney-obamas-enabler/">Dick Cheney: Obama&#8217;s Enabler</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Gene Healy</p><p>That&#8217;s the theme of my <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/GeneHealy/Dick-Cheney-is-becoming-Obamas-enabler-45349127.html"><em>Washington Examiner</em> column </a>this week:</p>
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<div>Dick Cheney’s “Shut Up and Listen” tour continued last week on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” There, the former veep reiterated his favorite theme: Obama is putting America at risk by “taking down a lot of those policies we put in place that kept the nation safe.”</div>
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<div>What in the world is Cheney talking about? Granted, Obama’s anti-terror policies are clouded by rhetorical “Hope” and euphemism, and the new administration is less given to chest-thumping than its predecessor. Otherwise, Obama’s approach to terrorism is virtually identical to Bush/Cheney’s.</div>
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<p> Harvard Law prof and former Bush OLC head Jack Goldsmith makes a similar point in <a href="http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=1e733cac-c273-48e5-9140-80443ed1f5e2&amp;p=1">a <em>New Republic</em> piece </a>out today, though Professor Goldsmith is happier about the continuity than I am.   For more, <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/19/obama/index.html">see Glenn Greenwald</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/dick-cheney-obamas-enabler/">Dick Cheney: Obama&#8217;s Enabler</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<title>Former FBI Agent: Torture Sucks.  Don&#8217;t Do It.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Rittgers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p>The Senate Judiciary Committee hearings produced an ugly picture of the role torture played in interrogating Al Qaeda leaders. The testimony of former FBI agent Ali Soufan shows how traditional intelligence techniques worked on Abu Zubaydah and &#8220;enhanced&#8221; techniques did nothing to advance national security interests: Immediately after Abu Zubaydah was captured, a fellow FBI [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/former-fbi-agent-torture-sucks-dont-do-it/">Former FBI Agent: Torture Sucks.  Don&#8217;t Do It.</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By David Rittgers</p><p>The Senate Judiciary Committee <a href="http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=3842">hearings</a> produced an ugly picture of the role torture played in interrogating Al Qaeda leaders. The <a href="http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=3842&amp;wit_id=7906">testimony</a> of former FBI agent Ali Soufan shows how traditional intelligence techniques worked on Abu Zubaydah and &#8220;enhanced&#8221; techniques did nothing to advance national security interests:</p>
<blockquote><p>Immediately after Abu Zubaydah was captured, a fellow FBI agent and I were flown to meet him at an undisclosed location. We were both very familiar with Abu Zubaydah and have successfully interrogated al-Qaeda terrorists. We started interrogating him, supported by CIA officials who were stationed at the location, and within the first hour of the interrogation, using the Informed Interrogation Approach, we gained important actionable intelligence.</p>
<p>We were once again very successful and elicited information regarding the role of KSM as the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, and lots of other information that remains classified. (It is important to remember that before this we had no idea of KSM&#8217;s role in 9/11 or his importance in the al Qaeda leadership structure.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Soufan then recounts a tug-of-war between the interrogators and the contractors brought in to apply the third degree. The intelligence and law enforcement professionals struggled to reestablish rapport with Zubaydah after each iteration of harsh interrogation tactics.</p>
<blockquote><p>The new techniques did not produce results as Abu Zubaydah shut down and stopped talking. At that time nudity and low-level sleep deprivation (between 24 and 48 hours) was being used. After a few days of getting no information, and after repeated inquiries from DC asking why all of sudden no information was being transmitted (when before there had been a steady stream), we again were given control of the interrogation.</p>
<p>We then returned to using the Informed Interrogation Approach. Within a few hours, Abu Zubaydah again started talking and gave us important actionable intelligence.</p></blockquote>
<p>The enhanced interrogation techniques were not only inferior to traditional interrogation techniques, they proved counterproductive. The use of illegal techniques resurrected the &#8220;wall&#8221; between the CIA and the FBI with regard to these detainees. This prevented FBI experts who knew more about Al Qaeda than anyone else in the government from questioning them. Plus, as Soufan recounts, coercive techniques make detainees tell you what you want to hear, whether it is true or not. As Jesse Ventura <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/05/12/lkl.jesse.long.cnn">says</a>, &#8220;you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney, and one hour, and I&#8217;ll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Torture did not advance the work of picking apart Al Qaeda, it disrupted it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/former-fbi-agent-torture-sucks-dont-do-it/">Former FBI Agent: Torture Sucks.  Don&#8217;t Do It.</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<title>Getting the Opponent to React in Foolish and Self-Defeating Ways Is One of the Primary Goals of Most Terror Campaigns</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harper</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Jim Harper</p>Stephen Walt has a great blog post up at ForeignPolicy.com. I particularly appreciate how he recognizes that terrorists seek and profit from overreaction on the part of the victim state: If our leaders react to every terrorist incident as if it&#8217;s a monumental disaster, and if they hype the terrorist threat for political advantage &#8212; [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/getting-the-opponent-to-react-in-foolish-and-self-defeating-ways-is-one-of-the-primary-goals-of-most-terror-campaigns/">Getting the Opponent to React in Foolish and Self-Defeating Ways Is One of the Primary Goals of Most Terror Campaigns</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Jim Harper</p><p>Stephen Walt has a <a href="http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/04/06/the_afpak_muddle_part_2_how_serious_is_the_threat">great blog post up at ForeignPolicy.com</a>.</p>
<p>I particularly appreciate how he recognizes that terrorists seek and profit from overreaction on the part of the victim state:</p>
<blockquote><p>If our leaders react to every terrorist incident as if it&#8217;s a monumental disaster, and if they hype the terrorist threat for political advantage &#8212; as George Bush and Dick Cheney did &#8212; the public will surely respond by demanding that we throw more resources at the problem than is prudent. Getting the opponent to react in foolish and self-defeating ways is one of the primary goals of most terror campaigns, of course, because these blunders can help the terrorists win victories that they could not achieve otherwise. We did more damage to ourselves when we invaded Iraq than Osama bin Laden accomplished on 9/11, and an open-ended commitment in Central Asia could easily compound that error.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to believe that the Bush Administration wrongly sought political advantage &#8211; they may have believed the hype or believed that hyping threats was good policy &#8211; to recognize that hyping terror threats advances terrorists&#8217; goals and damages our own interests.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/getting-the-opponent-to-react-in-foolish-and-self-defeating-ways-is-one-of-the-primary-goals-of-most-terror-campaigns/">Getting the Opponent to React in Foolish and Self-Defeating Ways Is One of the Primary Goals of Most Terror Campaigns</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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		<title>The Problem of Guantanamo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bandow</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Doug Bandow</p>The Constitution obviously does not leave Americans helpless in fighting against those who wish them ill.  But it also sets standards of conduct that should not &#8212; indeed, cannot &#8212; be carelessly tossed aside. The prison at Guantanamo Bay has become such an international symbol of the U.S. abandoning its principles because it reflects an anti-terrorism [...]<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-problem-of-guantanamo/">The Problem of Guantanamo</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Doug Bandow</p><p>The Constitution obviously does not leave Americans helpless in fighting against those who wish them ill.  But it also sets standards of conduct that should not &#8212; indeed, cannot &#8212; be carelessly tossed aside.</p>
<p>The prison at Guantanamo Bay has become such an international symbol of the U.S. abandoning its principles because it reflects an anti-terrorism policy gone badly awry.  First, the Bush administration was both callous and careless in imprisoning people, even paying unreliable tribal allies for captives.  Second, the U.S. government created no effective and objective truth-determining process to assess guilt.  Third, Washington employed torture, violating both domestic and international law.</p>
<p>No doubt dangerous terrorists have been incarcerated at Gitmo.  But so too have many innocent people.  Indeed, <a href="http://news.antiwar.com/2009/03/19/former-state-dept-official-many-at-gitmo-are-innocent/">the claims of former State Department Chief of Staff Larry Wilkerson</a> are particularly sobering:</p>
<blockquote><p>Lawrence B. Wilkerson, the former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, admitted today that of the approximately 800 detainees held at Guantanamo Bay since the controversial detention center opened, <a href="http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/03/19/ex-bush-official-to-ap-many-at-gitmo-are-innocent/">only “two dozen or so” were actually terrorists</a>. Wilkerson told the Associated Press today that “there are still innocent people there,” and that “some have been there six or seven years.”</p>
<p>Wilkerson made other comments earlier in the week in an internet posting entitled “<a href="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/03/some_truths_abo/">Some Truths About Guantanamo Bay</a>.” In that posting he said that “several in the US leadership became aware of the lack of proper vetting very early on and thus, of the reality that many of the detainees were innocent of any substantial wrongdoing, had little intelligence value, and should be immediately released.”</p>
<p>Wilkerson also claimed that then-Secretary Powell and Richard Armitage were pressuring for the repatriation of as many detainees as possible, and that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney were unphased by the fact that “among the detainees was a 13 year old boy and a man over 90,” standing in opposition to returning detainees.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even if Wilkerson exaggerates&#8211;and he has been a credible witness so far&#8211;he points to the price America has paid for failing to live up to its principles.  The U.S. has locked up many who were neither terrorists nor otherwise dangerous.  Doing so undoubtedly has helped turn some people in and out of Gitmo towards violence against America.  And mistreating the innocent has badly sullied America&#8217;s reputation as a shining city upon a hill.</p>
<p>Confronting terrorism will never be easy.  But violating America&#8217;s principles is no way to defend the America in which we all claim to believe.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/the-problem-of-guantanamo/">The Problem of Guantanamo</a> is a post from <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org">Cato @ Liberty - Cato Institute Blog</a></p>
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